21 ft rule
The Mythbusters have a look. Not sure why he’s drawing, racking the slide, then firing though.
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June 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Yeah, I watched this and was pretty disappointed. I suspect the racking was because the paintball gun was spring powered, now gas powered.
The other obvious question is: “Would you really just stand there as a maniac with a knife runs at you?” Really. Ya just gotta move as you draw! From that aspect, I think the show clearly illustrates that with movement, the shooter would have gained the time to engage the threat before he was reached. Standing there playing a target – not so much.
June 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Even though Adam got the shot off Jamie was close enough to do real damage with a knife. As we all know the shot isn’t a magic end to the conflict.
June 13th, 2012 at 11:43 am
He also knew the charge was coming, try it sometime from concealment and not know when the other guy is going to charge. I for one will stick with the 25-30 foot rule.
June 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
its meant to be a recreation of an old west gunfight but they couldnt find a revolver paint gun
June 13th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Everyone knows to tacticool kids use the IDF empty chamber method. It’s all over the internet!
June 13th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The rule applies to realizing the attack, drawing and firing (even without having to chamber a round). If you have your gun out of the holster or at the ready or on target, you have more time to engage if your experience permits. But the key here is any shot less than immediate loss of all blood pressure, i.e., massive destruction of aorta, that collapses the attacker, the attacker can still inflict serious damage.
The obvious solution is awareness so you aren’t drawing cold and moving (in a semi-circle) while engaging the attacker. It is hard for someone charging to correct a trajectory toward a victim moving in 2 axes, i.e., to the side and forward in a semi-circular fashion).
June 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
He started out with just a knife, and now he’s got 2 axes? We’re in Viking territory. I’m loading grapeshot.
June 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Why does the chesty GoPro keep appearing and disappearing in the videos. The slow-mo video is not from the charge we just saw at full speed.
I wish this guys would stop with the gun myths.
June 13th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Initially, I was kind of upset that they were doing the draw/rack/fire method, too. But then I thought about all of the “empty chamber” carry arguments I’ve been in with my father, and forwarded him the video.
June 13th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Commiefornia Carry? Since they are based there, they do sometimes have some of that attitude and ignorance towards firearms (though they’re generally not too bad).
June 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
“Because carrying a loaded gun is dangerous!”
June 13th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
as controlled experiments go, this was pretty good.
a couple of years ago, the department did a series of experiments with fewer bells and whistles than these fellas. we simply lined a guy up facing a target and had another guy run from 90 degrees to the side and touch the shooter on the shoulder. if the shooter could get his shot off before the shoulder touch, all good. from a retention holster almost no one could get a shot off within the “21 foot rule” even against folks who weren’t sprinters. from concealed under a shirt? in a pocket? none of us carry concealed in a manner which is also a quick draw rig, so our data suggestes the 21 foot rule is still completely valid.
June 14th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Why do the concentric circles look further than 12 inches apart? More like 18 inches which would invalidate the demonstration.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Seemed to me that it was proof positive to always carry locked and loaded.